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(2014-Aug-29, 18:31:43)Emil Wrote:
(2014-Aug-29, 17:02:43)Dalliard Wrote: 1) The 'draft' watermark is REALLY irritating when trying to copy text. Don't use it.


You can just copy the text from the source file (article.tex). The reason to use the draft watermark was discussed here: http://www.openpsych.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=119


Have you tried copying text from the watermarked pages? Very annoying. How about you just write DRAFT at the top of the first page?

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Quote:2) Figures 1 and 2 are under copyright and probably cannot be used under fair use.

The journal is hosted in Denmark and from my reading of the Danish copyright law, it is clearly a legal case of quotation.

I wouldn't be sure of that, but it's your call. I don't think the figures are necessary.

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Quote:6) "the sample of countries was not so large as to introduce significant sampling error in estimates."

Clarify why increasing N increases sampling error.

It is indirectly mentioned earlier: "The first variable includes all groups with a population $>=200$. The second only includes groups with $>=1000$ such as to reduce sampling error."

Including many countries means the samples must be smaller. This introduces sampling error.

Yes, I understand that but it's poorly explained in the paper. You should mention the sample size problem again when talking about the second "condition" for adequate predictions.

Quote:I used Table 2 data, yes.

Adjusting for sex and age statistically overdoes the adjustment. If you look at their Table 4, M2 (age+sex adjust in logistic regression) has a rate of .7 for Afghans in Norway, lower than natives (1.0). That's not right. Afghan men aged 20-29 do not have lower crime rates than Norwegian men aged 20-29. (Looking at women is uninteresting since they commit only 10% of crimes or something).

The Danish dataset allows one to examine the effects of statistically controlling for age and sex while also doing it manually (by limiting the sample to men in some age group).

What one want to do is compare similar age groups as I did in the Danish study. I have asked SSB (Norway Statistics) for these data: men, age 15-19, 20-29, per capita crime rates by country of origin. It may take some time for them to give it to me. It may cost a lot of money. Basically, SSB is given a government monopoly on access to the data, so they can set the prices any way they want.

Perhaps they will give me the data soon, then we can compare the statistically adjusted values with the real ones.

Without adjustment for sex + age your estimates are biased in favor of the spatial transferability hypothesis. So if you cannot adjust your estimates for this, you should at least emphasize in the paper that the results are questionable because of this.

Quote:I did some MR analyses, but it didn't seem very interesting, so I left it out.

I used automatic modelling in R, using AIC and BIC. AIC results always included Islam and some at least one of the others. BIC always resulted in the model of Islam+GDP. This was also the result in my previous Danish study when I compared adjusted R^2 values.

Automatic modeling seems iffy especially with such limited data. I think you should report at least predictor intercorrelations and selected, theoretically sensible MR results.
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[ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Aug-27, 03:05:37
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Meng Hu - 2014-Aug-27, 20:30:31
Reply to MH - by Emil - 2014-Aug-28, 01:07:46
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Meng Hu - 2014-Aug-28, 22:01:59
New draft - by Emil - 2014-Aug-29, 16:29:58
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Dalliard - 2014-Aug-29, 17:02:43
Reply to Dalliard - by Emil - 2014-Aug-29, 18:31:43
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Peter Frost - 2014-Aug-29, 20:04:19
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Aug-29, 20:09:06
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Aug-30, 19:24:13
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Chuck - 2014-Sep-06, 19:41:43
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-07, 02:02:18
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Chuck - 2014-Sep-07, 19:34:07
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Duxide - 2014-Aug-31, 18:57:38
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Aug-31, 20:56:05
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Duxide - 2014-Aug-31, 21:06:48
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Peter Frost - 2014-Sep-01, 20:23:32
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Sep-07, 20:57:28
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Dalliard - 2014-Sep-09, 22:20:28
Dalliard - by Emil - 2014-Sep-10, 23:02:32
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-11, 17:36:29
Imputation - by Emil - 2014-Sep-11, 19:25:46
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-11, 20:27:46
Number of imputations - by Emil - 2014-Sep-11, 20:44:14
VIM - by Emil - 2014-Sep-11, 23:56:02
New draft - by Emil - 2014-Sep-12, 04:16:01
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Chuck - 2014-Sep-12, 23:54:29
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-12, 19:54:07
New draft, 16th sep. - by Emil - 2014-Sep-16, 06:37:57
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-16, 19:23:25
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Sep-16, 21:00:46
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-16, 22:58:16
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Dalliard - 2014-Sep-16, 23:54:09
Dalliard's nth review - by Emil - 2014-Sep-17, 01:51:01
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Chuck - 2014-Sep-18, 02:52:34
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-18, 15:24:41
Minding my P's and V's - by Emil - 2014-Sep-18, 15:26:09
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-23, 21:08:42
Predictor vectors terminology - by Emil - 2014-Sep-23, 22:40:18
Predictor x outcome interaction - by Emil - 2014-Sep-18, 17:10:48
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Chuck - 2014-Sep-18, 18:06:15
Revision, 22.09 - by Emil - 2014-Sep-22, 01:21:31
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Philbrick Bastinado - 2014-Sep-22, 03:19:27
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Sep-23, 09:41:00
Storing files on OSF - by Emil - 2014-Sep-23, 22:53:26
Meisenberg's review - by Emil - 2014-Sep-24, 22:44:49
Reply to Meisenberg - by Emil - 2014-Sep-25, 07:04:29
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment - by Dalliard - 2014-Sep-25, 17:45:04
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Sep-25, 18:10:20
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Dalliard - 2014-Sep-25, 18:21:01
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-26, 00:49:07
"interaction" and predictor intercors - by Emil - 2014-Sep-26, 01:43:06
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-27, 03:07:12
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Sep-27, 06:16:27
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Chuck - 2014-Sep-29, 01:43:11
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-29, 01:11:47
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Sep-29, 07:39:07
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Chuck - 2014-Sep-29, 18:41:06
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Dalliard - 2014-Sep-29, 20:28:23
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Sep-29, 20:59:51
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Peter Frost - 2014-Oct-02, 04:28:11
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Oct-03, 13:25:35
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Peter Frost - 2014-Oct-03, 22:26:31
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Oct-04, 13:26:57
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Peter Frost - 2014-Oct-04, 16:26:41
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Chuck - 2014-Oct-04, 18:00:08
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Oct-04, 19:44:05
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Chuck - 2014-Oct-04, 21:11:30
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Oct-05, 01:08:29
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Chuck - 2014-Oct-06, 19:35:06
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Duxide - 2014-Oct-06, 22:48:18
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Meng Hu - 2014-Oct-09, 00:07:14
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Oct-09, 01:56:33
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Meng Hu - 2014-Oct-09, 02:32:53
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Oct-09, 03:10:57
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Chuck - 2014-Oct-09, 08:08:41
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Oct-09, 08:11:38
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Chuck - 2014-Oct-09, 18:38:10
RE: [ODP] Crime, income and employment among immigrant groups in Norway and Finland - by Emil - 2014-Oct-09, 20:41:57
 
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