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(2014-Sep-08, 19:48:12)Duxide Wrote: Thanks. I will wait for the 3rd reviewer before proceeding with publication.


Dr. Meisenberg kindly reviewed the paper. His permission given, for documentation, I attached his marked up version of the paper along with our email exchange.

He noted:

Quote:Great work, interesting results. You mention that the bioecological model proposes that heritability is reduced when scores are environmentally reduced. I don’t think that such a simple connection is self-evident, and you could mention this in the discussion.
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Better specify the age range. Black-White IQ differences tend to increase with age. There is also some uncertainty about changes over time. The black-white gap in NAEP was reduced by about 40% for birth cohorts between about 1960 and 1975, but it is not certain how IQ gaps changed during that time.

I asked:

JF:
Quote:Thanks for your thoughtful commentary. Do I have permission to post your notes on the 'Open Behavioral Genetic' thread for this paper? Can I also note that you give conditional approval -- that is, on condition that my colleague and I make the noted clarifications? As for these, I agree that they will improve the paper somewhat

GM cordially agreed.

To fulfill the conditions, I made the following modifications:

(1) I added a footnote to our discussion of the group differences, which reads:

"[1] These represent crude characterizations of the magnitudes of the typically found differences. A more precise description would take into account variability by age, birth cohort, and migrant generation; to note, Dickens and Flynn (2006) found evidence of an age and birth cohort interaction with regards to the B/W differential, while Fuerst (2014) found evidence of a migrant generation interaction with regards to the H/W difference. "

(2) I added the following paragraph in the discussion section:

"Alternatively, the results may imply that the key prediction of the bio-ecological model – that environmental depression in a trait will be associated with significantly reduced heritability -- is incorrect. Another alternative is that the between group differences in question are more or less uniformly distributed – since the bio-ecological logic seems to be that environmental depression between groups will lead to increased environmental variance in the depressed group, which will lead to lower genetic influence in that group; this, of course, only holds if the between group difference is not uniformly distributed. Either way, the matter is difficult to determine, since a clear quantitative prediction has not been offered regarding the effect of environmental depression, measured in terms of standardized differences in cognitive ability, on variance components"

I attached the newest version the the paper. Can the journal's administrator confirm that we have filled the condition for GM's approval and that we now have three approvals?


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[OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Chuck - 2014-Jul-14, 06:25:48
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Emil - 2014-Jul-14, 10:45:09
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Meng Hu - 2014-Jul-14, 19:57:08
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Chuck - 2014-Jul-19, 22:37:13
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Chuck - 2014-Aug-05, 22:39:40
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Emil - 2014-Aug-07, 19:25:59
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Chuck - 2014-Aug-07, 22:27:33
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Chuck - 2014-Aug-08, 00:32:10
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Chuck - 2014-Aug-19, 03:11:37
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Emil - 2014-Aug-08, 00:29:43
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Emil - 2014-Aug-19, 09:36:33
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Chuck - 2014-Aug-19, 19:22:42
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Duxide - 2014-Aug-19, 19:33:48
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Chuck - 2014-Aug-19, 20:27:44
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Duxide - 2014-Aug-19, 20:56:25
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Emil - 2014-Aug-19, 21:23:08
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ - by Meng Hu - 2014-Aug-21, 01:11:58
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Chuck - 2014-Aug-21, 01:25:25
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Meng Hu - 2014-Aug-21, 02:29:13
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ - by Dalliard - 2014-Aug-21, 19:58:04
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ - by Meng Hu - 2014-Aug-21, 21:11:34
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Chuck - 2014-Aug-21, 23:43:11
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Duxide - 2014-Aug-21, 22:57:35
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ - by Dalliard - 2014-Aug-21, 23:45:22
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ - by Meng Hu - 2014-Aug-22, 04:19:42
RE: Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Americans - by Chuck - 2014-Aug-22, 04:25:14
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-02, 23:40:26
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Chuck - 2014-Sep-03, 02:48:14
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-07, 01:49:42
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Chuck - 2014-Sep-07, 19:35:52
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Duxide - 2014-Sep-08, 13:02:31
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Chuck - 2014-Sep-08, 15:16:27
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Emil - 2014-Sep-07, 21:44:22
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Chuck - 2014-Sep-07, 23:34:54
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Emil - 2014-Sep-07, 23:51:24
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-08, 00:21:20
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Emil - 2014-Sep-08, 00:36:38
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Emil - 2014-Sep-08, 15:04:06
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Duxide - 2014-Sep-08, 17:48:27
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Duxide - 2014-Sep-08, 18:01:30
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Chuck - 2014-Sep-08, 19:44:52
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Duxide - 2014-Sep-08, 19:48:12
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Chuck - 2014-Sep-11, 23:19:01
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Duxide - 2014-Sep-12, 10:53:22
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ - by Dalliard - 2014-Sep-09, 21:25:33
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-10, 01:12:35
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ - by Dalliard - 2014-Sep-11, 18:27:00
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Emil - 2014-Sep-11, 23:29:03
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Chuck - 2014-Sep-11, 23:35:43
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Emil - 2014-Sep-11, 23:44:40
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Meng Hu - 2014-Sep-12, 01:30:14
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Emil - 2014-Sep-12, 02:26:19
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Duxide - 2014-Sep-12, 22:59:24
RE: [OBG] Genetic and Environmental Determinants of IQ in Black, White, and Hispanic Amer - by Chuck - 2014-Sep-14, 21:11:40
 
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